Joba’s Chamberlain’s Velocity Higher in 2008 Than 2009
February 10, 2010 · Bronx Baseball Daily · Jump to comments
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The other day I went through the PitchFX data for Joba Chamberlain to see what we could find. So I compiled a list of all of his appearances in 2009 separating the data to find his velocity early in the season, later in the season, and then as a reliever.
I found that his velocity as a starter stayed consistent throughout the season at 92.47 MPH even though he struggled a lot after August started and he passed 110 innings for the first time as a major leaguer. His average velocity jumped to 95.19 MPH as a reliever, a difference of 2.72 MPH on average.
His ERA went down, but I feel it’s doubtful velocity was the contributing factor as it was consistent when he was a starter even when his numbers were. Instead it was more likely to be other factors. What those factors were are hard to say without doing a lot more research, but it is safe to say that velocity was at least not a major factor.
But I still find Joba’s velocity interesting, that happens when he can throw upwards of 100 MPH, so I decided to look back at his 2008 numbers.
So let’s take a look at where his velocity was at early in 2008 as a reliever:
Date-Opp. |
Top Speed |
Fastball Avg. |
Starts season as reliever |
|
|
Apr 1 – Blue Jays |
96.8 MPH |
94.17 MPH |
Apr 3 – Blue Jays |
98.3 MPH |
95.44 MPH |
Apr 6 – Rays |
99.5 MPH |
96.20 MPH |
Apr 10 – Royals |
99.6 MPH |
97.50 MPH |
Apr 19 – Orioles |
98.5 MPH |
97.25 MPH |
Apr 20 – Orioles |
97.9 MPH |
96.30 MPH |
Apr 22 – White Sox |
99.8 MPH |
97.32 MPH |
Apr 24 – White Sox |
97.5 MPH |
96.04 MPH |
Apr 27 – Indians |
96.2 MPH |
94.97 MPH |
Apr 28 – Indians |
97.0 MPH |
95.13 MPH |
May 2 – Mariners |
97.1 MPH |
94.73 MPH |
May 6 – Indians |
97.0 MPH |
94.90 MPH |
May 8 – Indians |
97.8 MPH |
96.11 MPH |
May 10 – Tigers |
96.7 MPH |
94.86 MPH |
May 13 – Rays |
98.6 MPH |
95.86 MPH |
May 14 – Rays |
99 MPH |
97.07 MPH |
May 17 – Mets |
97.3 MPH |
95.58 MPH |
May 21 – Orioles |
99.6 MPH |
96.36 MPH |
May 24 – Seattle |
97.7 MPH |
95.28 MPH |
May 28 – Orioles |
99.5 MPH |
96.07 MPH |
Average |
98.07 |
95.86 |
His average velocity of 95.86 MPH in the beginning of 2008 was less than one-MPH faster than his average velocity out of the bullpen at the end of 2009, 95.19 MPH—a 0.67 MPH difference. That is comforting because of an injury I’ll talk about in a minute.
First let’s take a look at his velocity in 2008 as a starter:
Becomes a starter |
|
|
June 3 – Blue Jays |
99.1 MPH |
95.24 MPH |
June 8 – Royals |
100.2 MPH |
96.22 MPH |
June 13 – Astros |
98.4 MPH |
94.57 MPH |
June 19 – Padres |
98.8 MPH |
95.12 MPH |
June 25 – Pirates |
99 MPH |
95.34 MPH |
July 1 – Rangers |
97.8 MPH |
94.81 MPH |
July 6 – Red Sox |
99.4 MPH |
94.94 MPH |
July 11 – Blue Jays |
98.4 MPH |
94.79 MPH |
July 19 – A’s |
99.6 MPH |
95.22 MPH |
July 25 – Red Sox |
99.6 MPH |
95.51 MPH |
July 30 – Orioles |
99.4 MPH |
94.86 MPH |
Aug 4 – Rangers |
98.2 MPH |
94.80 MPH |
Average |
98.99 |
95.12 |
Interesting, in 2008 his average as a reliever, 95.86 MPH, was barely higher than as a starter, 95.12 MPH, just 0.74 MPH different. That’s a lot different than 2009 when there was a 2.72 MPH difference between his velocity starting vs. relieving.
Then there was the rotator cuff tendonitis:
Put on DL w/Shoulder Tendonitis |
Comes back as a reliever |
|
Sept 2 – Rays |
95.8 MPH |
93.25 MPH |
Sept 6 – Mariners |
97.1 MPH |
93.83 MPH |
Sept 10 – Angels |
95.3 MPH |
93.82 MPH |
Sept 13 – Rays |
96.2 MPH |
94.20 MPH |
Sept 15 – White Sox |
97.2 MPH |
95.41 MPH |
Sept 17 – White Sox |
95.8 MPH |
94.63 MPH |
Sept 19 – Orioles |
95.9 MPH |
93.52 MPH |
Sept 21 – Orioles |
96 MPH |
94.07 MPH |
Sept 23 – Blue Jays |
95.8 MPH |
94.04 MPH |
Sept 28 – Red Sox |
93.7 MPH |
92.36 MPH |
Average |
95.88 |
93.91 |
Joba spent almost a month on the DL with tendonitis in his shoulder that many beat writers thought might have been more severe, but the Yankees were trying to make the playoffs and wanted him back on the mound. But his average velocity out of the pen in September of 2008 was 1.95 MPH slower than his previous average out of the pen.
It’s very possible that Joba came back and was not quite at 100 percent. Did that carry over to 2009? Let’s take a look:
2008 Total Avg. |
Top Speed |
Fastball Avg. |
ERA |
Relief |
98.07 |
95.86 |
2.28 |
Starter |
98.99 |
95.12 |
2.76 |
Post-Injury as reliever |
95.88 |
93.91 |
2.38 |
2009 Total Avg. |
Top Speed |
Fastball Avg. |
ERA |
Pre-Aug (before 110 innings) |
95.77 |
92.43 |
3.58 |
Post-Aug |
95.55 |
92.53 |
7.69 |
As reliever |
96.46 |
95.19 |
2.46 |
Only Joba knows if he was 100 percent in 2009, but his velocity was down as a starter compared to 2008. Making it harder to know if there was a lingering injury is his velocity as a reliever in 2008 compared to 2009. In 2008 his average was 95.86 MPH and then it dropped post-injury. But then in 2009 his average out of the pen was very close to his pre-injury number out of the pen in 2008.
It’s possible that he didn’t feel 100 percent at the start of 2009 and never really trusted himself to let loose all the way until he went in the bullpen at the end of the season. Because of this, it will be interesting to see if his velocity comes back as a starter in 2010.
Again though, we get a similar conclusion as we got the other day. Joba’s numbers don’t seem to change when his velocity changes. So as interesting as this is, it’s not the reason for his struggles at the end of 2009, or at least this is too small a sample size to tell.
Something was going on from August until the end of September last season and it probably didn’t have much to do with his velocity. Any ideas?
Date-Opp. |
Top Speed |
Fastball Avg. |
Starts season as reliever |
|
|
Apr 1 – Blue Jays |
96.8 MPH |
94.17 MPH |
Apr 3 – Blue Jays |
98.3 MPH |
95.44 MPH |
Apr 6 – Rays |
99.5 MPH |
96.20 MPH |
Apr 10 – Royals |
99.6 MPH |
97.50 MPH |
Apr 19 – Orioles |
98.5 MPH |
97.25 MPH |
Apr 20 – Orioles |
97.9 MPH |
96.30 MPH |
Apr 22 – White Sox |
99.8 MPH |
97.32 MPH |
Apr 24 – White Sox |
97.5 MPH |
96.04 MPH |
Apr 27 – Indians |
96.2 MPH |
94.97 MPH |
Apr 28 – Indians |
97.0 MPH |
95.13 MPH |
May 2 – Mariners |
97.1 MPH |
94.73 MPH |
May 6 – Indians |
97.0 MPH |
94.90 MPH |
May 8 – Indians |
97.8 MPH |
96.11 MPH |
May 10 – Tigers |
96.7 MPH |
94.86 MPH |
May 13 – Rays |
98.6 MPH |
95.86 MPH |
May 14 – Rays |
99 MPH |
97.07 MPH |
May 17 – Mets |
97.3 MPH |
95.58 MPH |
May 21 – Orioles |
99.6 MPH |
96.36 MPH |
May 24 – Seattle |
97.7 MPH |
95.28 MPH |
May 28 – Orioles |
99.5 MPH |
96.07 MPH |
Average |
98.07 |
95.86 |
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